The Spiritual Forum
Welcome to The Spiritual Forum, a space curated by Rev Carol Saunders for extraordinary conversations that explore the realms of spiritual living. Join us weekly for heart-to-heart dialogues with captivating individuals, delving into themes like love, faith, awakening, forgiveness, healing, spiritual practices, and divine encounters. These transformative narratives aim to inspire, fostering a deep connection to the profound experiences that shape our lives. Rev Carol’s guests include authors, filmmakers, experts, and everyday individuals who authentically share their journeys toward wholeness. These discussions transcend the ordinary, offering insights into navigating the complexities of our current world with authenticity and grace.
Episodes

Monday Jul 03, 2023
Episode 216 - Rooms of the Soul
Monday Jul 03, 2023
Monday Jul 03, 2023
Raised close to the land, Benig Mauger is an internationally known Jungian psychotherapist, teacher, poet and workshop leader. She has authored a number of critically acclaimed books including Songs from the Womb, which sheds much needed light on the "loss of soul" encountered by many people due to our modern medicalized way of birth. In Benig’s latest book, The Soul & the Sea, she brings psychology and spirituality together and presents a range of rooms of the psyche where we grow and heal. Written from her home by the sea in Connemara, Ireland during the first nine months of the Covid lockdown, she draws from her own life experiences as a Jungian therapist and spiritual teacher to illustrate how connection to nature and the spiritual world can heal emotional wounds. Here are a few things we talk about:
• We are in the midst of an unprecedented awakening
• There is an imprint that the birthing experience leaves on the soul
• There is often generational trauma around the birth experience
• All women have their own birth story and what matters is what they feel about it
• The inner power we have to heal, connecting with the wisdom of the earth
• Heartbreak opens us to unconditional love
• The great awakening is about the rise of the feminine
• The importance of connection & community
• The symbolism of water in dreams
Website: https://www.soul-connections.com/
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Soul-Sea-Essential-Healing-Everyday/dp/1803411279
Audio webinar: https://www.soul-connections.com/product/webinars-replay-birth-into-being/
Membership program: https://www.soul-connections.com/membership/
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Monday Jun 26, 2023
Episode 215 - Controlling Hierarchies & the Sovereign Spirit
Monday Jun 26, 2023
Monday Jun 26, 2023
“Hierarchical control systems are based in the idea that everyone is inherently flawed and incapable of experiencing their truth and their reality on their own, so therefore they need to be spoon fed.” - Michael Koyoti
This is Part 2 of an extended conversation with Michael Koyoti, author of Isness - Science, Consciousness, Spirit. In this episode we learn how pervasive controlling hierarchies are in our culture (religion, science, academia, politics, etc.) and how they interfere with the principles of Isness, our natural state. These hierarchies are designed to keep a handful of people in charge, ruling through fear and trauma while promising some elusive future that never happens. They perpetuate through our obedience to them. Humanity seems to have been genetically ingrained and culturally infused with this desire to be controlled and told what to believe. By so doing, we abandon our true divine nature! Here are some of the many things we talk about:
• The three aspects of controlling hierarchies which interfere with the principles of Isness
• The savior syndrome
• Every controlling hierarchy collapses under its own weight
• Where our obedience/acquiescence comes from
• A classic example of the scientific controlling hierarchy
• How the principle of oneness devolves into a synthetic collective consciousness centered in narcissism
• What we can start doing now to restore ourselves
website: www.michaelkoyoti.com/
book: https://www.amazon.com/Ness-Science-Consciousnes-Spirit-ebook/dp/B0BW2892SJ
Bio: Michael Koyoti has had a lifelong journey encompassing music, electronics, engineering, digital audio, technology executive roles, semiconductor startups, and venture capital. Alongside his technical career, he immersed himself into decades of meditation and spiritual inquiry with Sufis, Shamans, and mystic Christians. Among his many jobs, Michael worked for a government contractor that played a pivotal role in the development of the internet. Witnessing the devolution of the internet from decentralized to centralized, corporate controlled space, Michael began to focus on sovereign digital identity, decentralized computing and cyber security, while taking a deep dive into ancient traditions that embraced the sovereignty of the human spirit.
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Monday Jun 19, 2023
Episode 214 - Isness: Our Natural State
Monday Jun 19, 2023
Monday Jun 19, 2023
“The human spirit exists as a singularity, manifested in a sea of consciousness. Each conscious being experiences Creation from a unique and singular perspective shared with no other conscious being. The power of spirit does not come from its past achievements or future aspirations, but from its existence in the present instant. This is the essence of our existence. Awareness of this essence is called the state of ‘Is-ness.’” Michael Koyoti in his book, Isness - Science, Consciousness, Spirit
Michael Koyoti has had a lifelong journey encompassing music, electronics, engineering, digital audio, technology executive roles, semiconductor startups, and venture capital. Alongside his technical career, he immersed himself into decades of meditation and spiritual inquiry with Sufis, Shamans, and mystic Christians. Among his many jobs, Michael worked for a government contractor that played a pivotal role in the development of the internet. Witnessing the devolution of the internet from decentralized to centralized, corporate controlled space, Michael began to focus on sovereign digital identity, decentralized computing and cyber security, while taking a deep dive into ancient traditions that embraced the sovereignty of the human spirit. In this podcast Michael shares his understanding of Isness (defined above) and Aether, the medium which connects all matter. This is Part 1 of our conversation. In Part 2 we discuss how our natural state is blocked by oppressive controlling hierarchies and what to do about it.
website: https://www.michaelkoyoti.com/
© the spiritual forum 2023

Monday Jun 12, 2023
Episode 213 - Sabbatical Reflections
Monday Jun 12, 2023
Monday Jun 12, 2023
In this episode, I share my reflections on my Akashic Records reading from Episode 212 - The Akashic Records Speak, where the guides knew I was about to go on a vacation. They told me to call it a sabbatical and not work, but soul search and notice what feels good to me and what doesn’t. They said taht open honesty with myself would open the door to opportunities and that there would be spaces in time in the coming days to observe, "How am I reacting? How am I in story?" I was also told to take a day of reflection when I returned. I did all that and recorded my reflective thoughts in this podcast. I may have more reflecting to do! That door never closes. But made this recording because I thought it might serve as at least one example of how we can observe ourselves and allow our reflections to inform our paths going forward.

Monday Jun 05, 2023
Episode 212 - The Akashic Records Speak
Monday Jun 05, 2023
Monday Jun 05, 2023
Amy Robeson is a Master Akashic Records Teacher, Light Language Master, and Mentor who helps people tap into their most powerful inner potential to experience profound transformation. She is passionate about exploring spiritual concepts and truths and encourages her students to get curious and stay curious. As the founder of Sacred Awakening, she has created a powerful Akashic Records program, allowing her students to receive answers in any area of their life so they can live an empowered, aligned life. In this episode, about two thirds of the way through, Amy does an Akashic Records reading for Rev. Carol and the podcast audience. What she says in these readings are for you if it resonates with you. Here are some things we discuss:
• Following your energy/heart
• Living in curiosity
• What the Akashic records are and how can they be used
• Who the guardians are and how they help us
• Thinking versus intuition
• How to cultivate a relationship with our natural intuition
• Free will and infinite possibilities
• Rev. Carol’s reading at 39:30
• Podcast/listeners' reading at 61:00
https://theamyrobeson.com/
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Monday May 29, 2023
Episode 211 - Exhale: Hope, Healing and Life in Transplant
Monday May 29, 2023
Monday May 29, 2023
“My religion was ambition and achievement. It took a long time for me to realize I wasn’t the one saving their lives. I was a small part of that. I was the hand of a greater being.” – Dr. David Weill
For 20 years, Dr. David Weill kept with him a list of names of people who were in dire need of lung transplants. As the Director of the Center for Advanced Lung Disease and Lung and Heart-Lung Transplant Program at Stanford University Medical Center, he led a team of 55-60 people and was in charge of the care plan for transplant patients, assessing their psychological chances for survival and matching them with organs as they became available. Life and death seemed to be in his hands and losing a patient seemed to him like a personal failure. In this episode Dr. Weill tells the story of how he rode the emotional rollercoaster and evolved from arrogance to authenticity as he loosened his hold on control and awakened to the presence of higher power working through him. When he left the front lines of the hospital, he started Weill Consulting Group, which focuses on improving the delivery of pulmonary, ICU, and transplant care. His riveting memoir, Exhale: Hope, Healing, and a Life in Transplant, rawly and authentically depicts his fascinating life journey. Here are some of the things we talked about:
• The job of a transplant director
• Learning from transplant patients
• The ego’s addiction to control (i.e. ‘control enthusiasts)
• Insights gained from reading the Bible cover to cover
• The humanity of doctors and the loss of the soul in medicine
• The prevalence of post-covid confusion
• The need for systemic change (government, healthcare, etc.) to come from the grassroots level
• Writing as a way to process life
• Telling the truth and not pretending
• The importance of connection
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Monday May 22, 2023
Episode 210 - Natural Law, Conscious Community and Permaculture
Monday May 22, 2023
Monday May 22, 2023
Paul and Lauren Bell are devoted to right-livelihood, conscious parenting and intentionally building community grounded in the fundamental knowledge of Natural Law. Paul is a chef, culinary expert and yoga teacher. Lauren is nature philosopher and certified teacher of permaculture design. Together they founded Truth Love and Freedom (a platform for activism, teaching Natural Law, morality, and voluntaryism) and Blue Hill Farm Organics, both of which operate from their certified organic permaculture farm in Southern California. Paul and Lauren are deeply tuned into themselves, consciously live their values and take action in the world. Here is some of what we cover in this inspiring and educational conversation:
• What is Natural Law?
• Living with cognitive dissonance
• Perceptions versus Truth
• Morality is objective
• Force versus violence
• Ideas for creating self-expressive community
• Our body is a temple
• What is permaculture?
• Why organic is so important
• The myths of homeschooling
• The need to take action!
https://truthloveandfreedom.com/
https://bluehillfarmorganics.com/permaculture-design
http://www.ahimsabowls.com/
© the spiritual forum 2023

Monday May 15, 2023
Episode 209 - Fearless Living with Guy Finley
Monday May 15, 2023
Monday May 15, 2023
Born into a successful show business family (son of late-night TV and radio pioneer Larry Finley), Guy Finley had a successful early career that included composing award-winning music for popular recording artists such as Diana Ross, The Jackson 5, Billy Preston and the Four Seasons. He also scored several motion pictures and TV shows and wrote and recorded his own albums under the Motown and RCA labels. At the young age of 27, he realized that "there wasn’t a soul on the planet who could do for me what I needed to do for myself,” so he hung it all up and pursued the inner spiritual journey. Guy is now the Founder and Director of Life of Learning Foundation, a nonprofit center for spiritual discovery and acclaimed author of over 45 books, including The Secret of Letting Go and The Essential Laws of Fearless Living. In this episode we have a deep conversation about a number of spiritual topics including:
• The root of fear
• Our self-perpetuated prison
• Unconscious identifications
• The problem with trying to avoid being reactive
• Resistance as a form of negative attraction
• How affirmations can give voice to what we are not
• The path to fearlessness
• Moving mountains
• How we are meant to help the world
Website: https://www.guyfinley.org/
Outreach Program: https://onejourney.net/
Free weekly classes: https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/9067053776971860749?source=interview
Events: https://www.guyfinley.org/events.html
Guy Finley books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001ITW1CM/allbooks

Rev Carol Saunders
Experienced Minister, Spiritual Leader, Speaker, Blogger and Podcast Host, with a demonstrated history working in spiritual organizations. Skilled in Nonprofit Organizations, Public Speaking, Dialogue Facilitation, Spiritual Coaching, Writing, Pastoral Counseling, Premarital/Marriage coaching, Sacred Ceremonies and Conflict Resolution. Strong media and communication professional in the spiritual awakening business. For more information, Visit the about Rev Carol Saunders in the menu above